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#1 Runnigbadnice

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:42 PM

So, this is my Redline on the button



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Is this a sign that i am a good player?




THIS IS HANDS ONLY PLAYED FROM THE BUTTON!

#2 SmotPoker+1

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:37 PM

my grandmother could play the button profitable....not hatin wish u the best but u need mor convincing numbers then 2k hands from the button...gl and stop posing with graphs...if u listen to ur inner voice u knoe if u r good or not and wouldnt need self effirmation from some dudes from the internet! GL HF

#3 GrimTard

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:19 PM

It dosent tell much. And no +redline dosent make you a better player then a break even redline player. Totalty different styles of play post.
On topic: Having +red from button is something everyone should have. Sameway you lose money in the blinds.

#4 Requiescat In Pace

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 01:10 PM

It depends on style etc
I dont have my HEM or anything on my new computer, but i do have some old screenshots of my redline.

Without going into to much of a explanation and discussion i would say that the optimal redline is breakeven or small winning, and having a high blue line. The reason for saying this is based on the best regs from 2/4-5/10 that have playing styles and like that and really is huge winners.

But you can experiment and see which styles that fits you the best. So based on the redline alone you cannot conclude whether you are a good player or not.

My graph is from the stakes that i did beat. Before blowing everything up on PLO 500 and PLO 1k

The graph is a year old now, because i havent really played since last year

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#5 chimpy22

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 03:26 PM

Really red line doesn't matter at all. And if you worry too much about it declining then you pretty much always end up losing a tonne in showdown winnings (blue line) by being overaggressive in bad spots. Check out the graphs for vinivici9586 on January 15 2011 in his blog. His redline decreases severely but he is still one of the biggest winners at small to midstakes full ring NL on stars.

http://vinivici9586.wordpress.com/

#6 fisher1414

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

Maybe if you showed this graph for all positions its be a solid start to becoming a good winning poker playerBut youre only breaking even on the button, which is the easiest position to play. If youre only breaking even on the B im left believing youre getting ruined in other positions

#7 GrimTard

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 05:08 PM

Some people tend to belive if you have a awsome redline your a great player. As we pointed out over here it has to do with style. My redline is going thru the roof, but i deff got tremendous leak as my showdown line (blueline) is fare from impressiv in my eyes. I actually wanna try to do some changes about my game, i think i would won more solid over time and much less swings. As Requiecat points out " optimal redline is breakeven or small winning, and having a high blue line" is much more profitable then a tremendous redline. But it all depends on skillz ofc, hand reading, turning medicore hands into bluffs bla bla. And its possible to have both great red and blue line. Only masters can do that!

This is very impressiv: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/174/poker-goals-challenges/my-journey-1-000-000-challenge-done-912193/
He is a postflop beast but he got skillz that is fare from avarage. That is a amazing redline. Recomend players to read that thread for motivation and to learn a trick or two.

And read this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-stakes-pl-nl/well-jman28-revisisted-88525/ if you wanna improve your game. Its better then most poker books.







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