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#1 raheappa

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

Hello,


I have a question, not an answer.
I'm going to deposit $ 100 in the near future.
I can make a sustainable profit in the 1.5$ hyper-turbo hu sngs. With an ROI of at least 5% pre rackback. (sample 1k games roi >5%) quit poker becaus of internship, back to school in a few weeks.


1) How do I build a bankroll?
2) I hear people talk about bulding a bankroll with sngs, do they mean hu, stt, etc....
3) I am also curious about the rakeback on full tilt (at stars with my VIP level, you almost zero rackback and you pay 4%)
4) should i play hu hyper turbo's becaus i can make a sustainable profit and grind it up form there?


Thanks in advance

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:20 PM

If you have a clue about hyper turbo hu sng you should get some infos about the normal hu sngs because u can get at the 1.5$ way more ROI than 5% if you play just standard poker period.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:26 PM

I can play 3-4 hu hyper turbo's in the time of 1 turbo sng, so i need a roi of 15% on hu turbo sng...

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:58 PM

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#5 fisher1414

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:29 AM

you can build a roll playing any type of game as long as you do it the right wayalthough i wouldn't try and "build" a bankroll playing any tournament that has over 10 players because the swings are too high.. once you have build a roll you can determine if you're someone who should be playing the 18 person, 45 person and MTT games


most players find a consistent way to build a bankroll is from playing double or nothing


considering you are a proven winner at the lowstake HU hyper turbos i would probably just stick to them
although the one thing that i would do if i were you would be to stop playing on stars or fulltilt, because the lowstake players do not get nearly a high enough rakeback %


playing on a smaller site that offers good rakeback would be a good way to use your $100 deposit,
you should probably use a 50-75 buyin bankroll management while playing the lowstake HU sngs, and then probably a 100-200 buyin bankroll management once you get up to the higher stake HU sngs


but the one thing i emphasize on is that you should find a site that offers good rakeback, private message me if you have any questions

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:05 AM

fisher1414 (2013-04-02) you can build a roll playing any type of game as long as you do it the right wayalthough i wouldn't try and "build" a bankroll playing any tournament that has over 10 players because the swings are too high.. once you have build a roll you can determine if you're someone who should be playing the 18 person, 45 person and MTT games


most players find a consistent way to build a bankroll is from playing double or nothing


considering you are a proven winner at the lowstake HU hyper turbos i would probably just stick to them
although the one thing that i would do if i were you would be to stop playing on stars or fulltilt, because the lowstake players do not get nearly a high enough rakeback %


playing on a smaller site that offers good rakeback would be a good way to use your $100 deposit,
you should probably use a 50-75 buyin bankroll management while playing the lowstake HU sngs, and then probably a 100-200 buyin bankroll management once you get up to the higher stake HU sngs


but the one thing i emphasize on is that you should find a site that offers good rakeback, private message me if you have any questions





do u not think its possible 2 build a BR by playing 45 man turbos ??? even with a 75+ buy ins ?

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:24 AM

fisher1414 (2013-04-02) you can build a roll playing any type of game as long as you do it the right wayalthough i wouldn't try and "build" a bankroll playing any tournament that has over 10 players because the swings are too high.. once you have build a roll you can determine if you're someone who should be playing the 18 person, 45 person and MTT games


most players find a consistent way to build a bankroll is from playing double or nothing


considering you are a proven winner at the lowstake HU hyper turbos i would probably just stick to them
although the one thing that i would do if i were you would be to stop playing on stars or fulltilt, because the lowstake players do not get nearly a high enough rakeback %


playing on a smaller site that offers good rakeback would be a good way to use your $100 deposit,
you should probably use a 50-75 buyin bankroll management while playing the lowstake HU sngs, and then probably a 100-200 buyin bankroll management once you get up to the higher stake HU sngs


but the one thing i emphasize on is that you should find a site that offers good rakeback, private message me if you have any questions




Which sites could u offer?

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:42 AM

Deposit $1000 instead of $100. If you want to build a bankroll from 100, it will take a lot longer. If you're a sustainable winning player, front up the extra cash. It's definitely worth it.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 10:30 AM

LostSam (2013-04-02) Deposit $1000 instead of $100. If you want to build a bankroll from 100, it will take a lot longer. If you're a sustainable winning player, front up the extra cash. It's definitely worth it.



some ppl dont have the money to deposit $1000 like myself . im still pretty sure u could build a decent BR by only depositing $50 or $100 if u have the time and patience along with good BR management and tilt control of which i lack severely eg. got my BR up to $250ish and started playing fixed limit omaha hilo $8/$16 and got murdered :(

#10 fisher1414

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:37 AM

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fisher1414 (2013-04-02) you can build a roll playing any type of game as long as you do it the right wayalthough i wouldn't try and "build" a bankroll playing any tournament that has over 10 players because the swings are too high.. once you have build a roll you can determine if you're someone who should be playing the 18 person, 45 person and MTT games


most players find a consistent way to build a bankroll is from playing double or nothing


considering you are a proven winner at the lowstake HU hyper turbos i would probably just stick to them
although the one thing that i would do if i were you would be to stop playing on stars or fulltilt, because the lowstake players do not get nearly a high enough rakeback %


playing on a smaller site that offers good rakeback would be a good way to use your $100 deposit,
you should probably use a 50-75 buyin bankroll management while playing the lowstake HU sngs, and then probably a 100-200 buyin bankroll management once you get up to the higher stake HU sngs


but the one thing i emphasize on is that you should find a site that offers good rakeback, private message me if you have any questions





do u not think its possible 2 build a BR by playing 45 man turbos ??? even with a 75+ buy ins ?



yea you can obviously bill a roll playing 45 man turbos, 75 buyins would be a risky start to trying to build a roll at these games unless youre a proven winner. It isn't unlikely that a good player will have a streak of losing 20 games in a row or having a ~100 buyin downswing


So if you're going to take that approach you better hope you run good

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:41 AM

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LostSam (2013-04-02) Deposit $1000 instead of $100. If you want to build a bankroll from 100, it will take a lot longer. If you're a sustainable winning player, front up the extra cash. It's definitely worth it.



some ppl dont have the money to deposit $1000 like myself . im still pretty sure u could build a decent BR by only depositing $50 or $100 if u have the time and patience along with good BR management and tilt control of which i lack severely eg. got my BR up to $250ish and started playing fixed limit omaha hilo $8/$16 and got murdered :(



Its a waste of time, you can make 10x more money working a min wage job. you need to deposit $500 and play .50/$1 min to avoid the rake rip off and make it worth the effort. You wont find much good action there either cause everyone bum hunting and online is largely populated with decent players.

The best place to start, if your serious and not just trying to get a lucky rush, is a casino $200 buy in 3/5 or $300-$500 5/5 game.. if you cant afford it then finding a job is a better goal.



personally i think a lot of your points are wrong


rake at the lowstake games is hardly a higher percentage than at the midstake games, key is to have solid rakeback


for example


i deposited $75 onto a site about 2 months ago, I had the bankroll on other sites and in my bank account to deposit more i just chose not to
i played with relatively poor bankroll management when i first deposited, but once i got to $250 i played basically strictly 50-75 buyin bankroll management... its now 2 months later and I'm using 150-250 buyin BR management and have turned my $75 deposit into over $5k in only 2 months

#12 fisher1414

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 11:42 AM

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fisher1414 (2013-04-02) you can build a roll playing any type of game as long as you do it the right wayalthough i wouldn't try and "build" a bankroll playing any tournament that has over 10 players because the swings are too high.. once you have build a roll you can determine if you're someone who should be playing the 18 person, 45 person and MTT games


most players find a consistent way to build a bankroll is from playing double or nothing


considering you are a proven winner at the lowstake HU hyper turbos i would probably just stick to them
although the one thing that i would do if i were you would be to stop playing on stars or fulltilt, because the lowstake players do not get nearly a high enough rakeback %


playing on a smaller site that offers good rakeback would be a good way to use your $100 deposit,
you should probably use a 50-75 buyin bankroll management while playing the lowstake HU sngs, and then probably a 100-200 buyin bankroll management once you get up to the higher stake HU sngs


but the one thing i emphasize on is that you should find a site that offers good rakeback, private message me if you have any questions




Which sites could u offer?



i'd suggest most ipoker skins or the revolution network

#13 fisher1414

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:55 AM

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LostSam (2013-04-02) Deposit $1000 instead of $100. If you want to build a bankroll from 100, it will take a lot longer. If you're a sustainable winning player, front up the extra cash. It's definitely worth it.



some ppl dont have the money to deposit $1000 like myself . im still pretty sure u could build a decent BR by only depositing $50 or $100 if u have the time and patience along with good BR management and tilt control of which i lack severely eg. got my BR up to $250ish and started playing fixed limit omaha hilo $8/$16 and got murdered :(



Its a waste of time, you can make 10x more money working a min wage job. you need to deposit $500 and play .50/$1 min to avoid the rake rip off and make it worth the effort. You wont find much good action there either cause everyone bum hunting and online is largely populated with decent players.

The best place to start, if your serious and not just trying to get a lucky rush, is a casino $200 buy in 3/5 or $300-$500 5/5 game.. if you cant afford it then finding a job is a better goal.



personally i think a lot of your points are wrong


rake at the lowstake games is hardly a higher percentage than at the midstake games, key is to have solid rakeback


for example


i deposited $75 onto a site about 2 months ago, I had the bankroll on other sites and in my bank account to deposit more i just chose not to
i played with relatively poor bankroll management when i first deposited, but once i got to $250 i played basically strictly 50-75 buyin bankroll management... its now 2 months later and I'm using 150-250 buyin BR management and have turned my $75 deposit into over $5k in only 2 months



I doubt that you turned $75 to 5k in 2 months playing micros, mainly because ive never seen any ones stats with strong brm prove that. Its possible but maybe for like 1 out of 1000 people that are good run insanely hot. And the whole $75 to 5k if true is probably mostly made in just a couple sessions of terrible brm where you played much higher then rolled for and u ran good, while if u ran bad you'd be redepositing.

I have a better shot at going to the casino and putting $150 on a number of roulette and winning 5k then grinding the micros for 2months for 5k, where you lose a whole buy in after 200 hands to rake. And for the normal grinding after like 50k hands when all the luck levels out you'll be making prob $2hr like i said which i'd prefer a min wage job then that.



started off playing the $2.75 games with my $75
once i was up to $200 i moved to the $5 games
once i was up to $600 i moved to the $5-10 games
once i was up to $1250 i moved to the $10-20 games
and once i was up to $3k i played the $10-40 games


and i've won about 560 buyins in 2 months, steady grinding not doing an mtt or anything


here is my graph since i deposited the $75 on january 26th
i've made $5916 in 4612 sng games in about 65 days off of a $75 deposit, this isn't including my winning from rakeback which put me over 6k


if you need more proof that its possible just ask


http://www.highstakesdb.com/forum/Uploads/Images/cd5c9770-bc8d-405d-9374-5e89.PNG

#14 Canumakemefeelgood?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:00 AM

put it on the red multiple times imo:doze:

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:39 AM

i just put in $100 and lost it in 30min gl.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:55 AM

i hate poker

i quit

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:58 AM

pokerroad2rches (2013-04-03) i hate poker

i quit



hehe so when will u deposit again:Whistling:

#18 fisher1414

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:01 AM

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pokerroad2rches (2013-04-03) i hate poker

i quit



hehe so when will u deposit again:Whistling:



id give him 24 hours before another deposit

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:19 AM

I would personally play cashgames 10 dollar or even 25 dollar games and ride my luck there. Try and move the 100 dollars up to 200. Then you can throw in some bigger SNG´s like 13 or 27 dollar and try and hit a nice score. Throw in some MTT´s just to keep the possibiity of a jackpot open.


Grinding SNG´s is tough ****. And i think its harder to sustain playing poker when playing loads of SNG´s winning a little each time than playing cashgames. In cashgames playing fewer tables is allright and just get a feel for the other players. Its much more fun and avoid Zoom poker.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 05:19 AM

OMGTIMDWAN i would like you to apologize for doubting my skillz at grinding small rolls to big rolls in a short period of time,

please and thanks




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