trumbo (2010-02-05)
i can't believe its 4 pages of discussion on this. pair versus 2 overcards is about as standard as it gets. i agree that there is no way anyone plays a big pocket pair like this in this situation. so he prob knew you had a middle pair or something like that and decided to race.
as for your shove, it hardly seems worth it. if he's just stealing then you win what 3000? (you're risking 25K to win 3?) if not, your best case scenario is racing for your tournament, worst case you're completely dominated by a bigger pair. you certainly didn't need to shove with 66 there.
if you flat call and push on the flop even, putting him on a big ace. he prob folds.
for me, i'd never risk a tournament on a pair of sixes in that spot.
i never understand why people shove with middle pair except shorthanded. you're usually only gonna get called by hands just like that one, and then you're racing.
he's almost even calling with that hand if he puts you on small/medium pair.
if you flat call, and push on a low board, then he's a 3 to 1 dog and prob wont call. if a face card hits, you get out cheap.
just my opinion.
Are you one of those, "I put you on AK people?"
Come on, I am sorry but this breakdown of the hand is not good. A) If you aren't willing to take risks in +chip EV spots then you aren't a winning player. B) limp/calling and then jamming a low flop is insanely bad because you are taking away every bit of value that 66 has.... for instance... lets say OP limp/calls the raise... flop 8 4 3 rainbow and he just heaves. The guy is NEVER calling with worse... and ALWAYS calling with better. aka, 66 would be turned into a pure bluff... you might as well do this with 9 high or something.
-Arson