Posted 2009-12-30 05:06
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How variance can ruin moving up in limits

I started a blog some time back charting my progress as I tried to turn $50 into a healthy bankroll. It was fun, frustrating, and quite a learning experience. There is a lot of talk about BRM on this site and I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

I am going to add my graph from .02NL and .05NL. The graph shows how much I won and my EV (expected value). When I moved up to .05NL I was running so bad and then started to play bad. If you look at my chart you can see that I was running about 10 buy in under EV. This is over a sample of only 13K hands.

The sample of .02NL is over 30K hands. I think what is interesting is how running bad can make you start to playing bad. At the end of my .05NL I was playing terrible poker. I think the ability to play solid poker when running god awful is what makes a great poker player.

The software I used by the way was poker tracker. If anyone has their own data or examples I would love to see it / hear it. What is the most someone has run under or over EV? I think if I went 25 buy ins under EV I would take a 2+ year break from poker.

P.S I was over EV at .02NL by 5 buy ins.
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Posted 2009-12-30 05:33
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RE: How variance can ruin moving up in limits

omgjtt (2009-12-30)
I started a blog some time back charting my progress as I tried to turn $50 into a healthy bankroll. It was fun, frustrating, and quite a learning experience. There is a lot of talk about BRM on this site and I just wanted to add my 2 cents.

I am going to add my graph from .02NL and .05NL. The graph shows how much I won and my EV (expected value). When I moved up to .05NL I was running so bad and then started to play bad. If you look at my chart you can see that I was running about 10 buy in under EV. This is over a sample of only 13K hands.

The sample of .02NL is over 30K hands. I think what is interesting is how running bad can make you start to playing bad. At the end of my .05NL I was playing terrible poker. I think the ability to play solid poker when running god awful is what makes a great poker player.

The software I used by the way was poker tracker. If anyone has their own data or examples I would love to see it / hear it. What is the most someone has run under or over EV? I think if I went 25 buy ins under EV I would take a 2+ year break from poker.

P.S I was over EV at .02NL by 5 buy ins.

I was 46buyins below expectation during oct-nov...and it happens every now and then...overall it evens out...I'm slightly above ev over 200k hands...Played 500 hands or so today and was 6 buyins below ev after 100hands and ended up even anyway...all you can do is play well and get into good spots..the rest takes care of it self. Don't focus on things you can't control..gl
2009-12-30 05:34 by sweetlisa
Posted 2009-12-30 05:42
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RE: How variance can ruin moving up in limits

Thanks Lisa,

46 below is insane. I am pretty good with not tilting but I think at that point I would be losing my mind. I am going to try to get in 100K hands in 2010. Should be quite the ride. What limits do you play? My chart was all NLHE by the way.

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